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What information does LIGHT bring to your child? Can artificial sources of light actually lower attention and cause dysregulation? Can you hear light?

Roudy Nassif, founder of VivaRays, and all-round light wiz leaves us with a lot of really new information about how light influences every body system we have and leaves us with 3 tips to use light to our benefit (and our kids’ benefit)

  1. Go outside and witness the sunrise for at least 15 mins.

I just started doing this, and I can attest that I feel a lot more energetic in the mornings.

Listen on for more of Roudy’s insights on attention, light, sensory overwhelm, and regulation!

You can find more information at http://www.vivarays.com/

 

Audio Transcript:

Vaish:

What information does light bring to your child? Can artificial sources of light actually lower attention and cause dysregulation? Can you hear light? These are the questions that the amazingly articulate and light Roudy Nassif talks about in episode 91 of functional nutrition and learning for kids. I’m your host vice, you know me. I’m a mom to a nonspeaking autistic teen with Down Syndrome and a neurotypical preteen. And I teach families how to use nutrition and learning strategies to get on track with their education goals. And I’m here to help you take the next step in guiding your child towards emotional regulation, body comfort, and equal education. Stay tuned because about halfway through this episode, Rudy talks about three ways that you can get light to start working for you right away. Let’s go. I’m really excited today to finally have somebody that can talk to us about light and its effects on our population.

Today we have our special guest Roudy Nassif, he is the founder of Viva rays which manufactures eco-friendly blue light blocking glasses. For most of his life, Roudy Spent nights staying up late waking up feeling exhausted, unmotivated, and unfocused. And after visiting so many doctors trying different diets, supplements, and herbs, nothing seemed to work. About five years ago, Rudy’s depression and anguish became unbearable. So he decided to embark on a worldwide journey of learning about himself and nature. His experiences transformed his health and life. And his quest to understand this transformation and to help others led him to study light quantum biology and the circadian rhythm. And this is how Viva rays were born.

Roudy has been educating hundreds of functional medicine and naturopathic doctors about the power of light and helping them optimize their personnel as well as patients’ well-being and their sleeping patterns and their energy and focus. Roudy is on a mission to elevate people’s light environment to a whole new level of alignment with nature, in order to live in an optimal rhythm, resulting in better sleep, more energy, focus and higher productivity. And these are all my favorite keywords. Rudy, thank you for coming here to talk about them. Welcome.

Roudy Nassif:

Hi, thanks for having me on. Yeah, million. And Thursday yesterday,

Vaish:

I would love to hear more about your story. But I also want to hear about what are the physiological systems or factors that light can have an effect on? And I know that’s probably everything. And but can you were talking to most parents of children with disabilities were on might also be talking to a few practitioners. So in that context, could you just lead us through the different things that light, bad light, lack of light, too much light, whatever can have an effect on?

Roudy:

Yeah, definitely. When we talk about light, when I introduce the topic to people, most people think of light as simply something superficial, that makes vision possible. However, it’s much more profound and influential than this. Light is the most powerful force that shapes and molds every aspect of our life. And I always try to explain this through a very simple quantum equation by Albert Einstein equal MC squared. And while this is going to be theoretical, I guess it’s going to be a nice way to open up the subject, and trigger people may be to think of light in a new in a completely new way.

Albert Einstein, through his law of relativity, thought equal MC squared is light. And his mass and see is the last thing he taught us that light and matter are exactly the same things. And that model is actually light that is vibrating at a slower speed. And this means that we are light beings and everything around you at this moment is actually light that is vibrating at a slower speed. And this also means that the Earth itself, and matter itself, come from the light and is profoundly influenced by light. So you know, I pondered the beauty of this equation every morning, and we now know the light.

When light hits the cornea and it actually helps us to recreate ourselves every single morning because it’s very well known now that this slide is actually programming, all of the hormones and neurotransmitters that enable us to make a model of ourselves in space and time. And that enabled us to perceive reality, perceive ourselves perceive our environment, and the people around us. And back in the 1970s, I think it was when science first recognized that light entering our eyes was not only for vision, in fact, vision is only a very small aspect of this light that enters our eyes.

That’s interesting. And light. And science started exploring how light actually directly stimulates and regulates our endocrine system and our nervous system. So I could go more into this and explore the relationship of light between our autonomic nervous system and our endocrine system. Does that sound good to you?

Vaish:

That sounds good. And basically, what so you’re saying among the many things that like as it has an effect on our hormones and neurotransmitters also, so? Yeah, so let’s Yeah, let’s talk about that just a little bit more.

Roudy:

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I mean, like, affects our mitochondria it has it affects our circadian rhythms, which run hundreds of 1000s of bodily functions in our body, and also affects our nervous system and our endocrine system and our autonomic nervous system is this subconscious is the system that subconsciously regulates all of our inner workings of the body, like the heart, the muscles, all of our glands, that are actually designed to work for us without our conscious effort. And with that, without needing to put thought into this and this system is always maintaining and restoring balance and homeostasis. And it actually does this through subsistence, known as the sympathetic and the parasympathetic nervous system. And the sympathetic part is the system that supports us while in action while studying while moving and taking action in our life.

Whereas the parasympathetic is responsible for rebuilding and rejuvenating. And basically, we can think of as this autonomic nervous system as this fulcrum point and a seesaw, right, and on one side of the fulcrum, we have the sympathetic system, which acts as an accelerator. And on the other side, we have the parasympathetic system, which acts as a brake. And perfect balance is this equilibrium point, where we have a balance between action and rest between acceleration and brakes. Now, this whole system is actually governed and controlled by the hypothalamus in the brain. And what we now know is that this part of the brain, the hypothalamus, receives light-activated information from the eyes.

Okay, and this light is able to be actually controlling the two different parts of the hypothalamus that control the nervous system. Now, let’s, let’s put this into more practical means when you wake up in the morning, for instance, you go outside, you start witnessing the slowly increasing blue and green light frequencies, okay, which, which awakens you and activate your circadian rhythm. But what this blue light actually does, from morning sunlight, it activates our sympathetic nervous system. And it turns on our pituitary glands. And for example, this leads to the production of pregnenolone in our mitochondria, okay, which the body converts into any steroid that we might need, like cortisol, or progesterone, or testosterone during the day.

Now, here’s the problem, this blue light, and nature is never isolated from the other colors like yellow, green, and orange. It’s all in a calm in symmetrical way, and in a balanced way with all these other colors. And these other colors are actually designed to switch off the production of hormones as needed, right. And it helps us maintain this perfect balance between the sympathetic and the parasympathetic nervous system. And what most of us do, is we wake up in the morning, and we turn on artificial lights, and those lights are very high in the blue. And this blue is very isolated, and it’s not balanced with the other colors. And this eventually leads to over-activation in our sympathetic nervous system and over-activation of the pituitary gland, releasing all these different hormones like cortisol and norepinephrine and adrenaline and there’s nothing on the other side that is switching off the release of these hormones. So we ended up naturally

Vaish:

you would have had a balance where even though you’re turning on your sympathetic nervous system, you would get put automatically in some sort of a balance with the parasympathetic even in the morning. And the release of cortisol and the other invigorating hormones, let me call it that way would be in a certain balance, which is that balance is complete. So you’re on one side of the seesaw, the fulcrum that’s pushed down completely

Roudy:

100% I think, our modern exposures to artificial light are putting us in a state of continuous sympathetic arousal. And that we’re not being exposed to those frequencies of light that nature has designed for us to create the equilibrium, and to actually switch off some of the hormonal production as needed throughout the day.

Vaish:

That is, that’s really scary to listen to, because, on a very subconscious level, everybody’s constantly having this, this switch activated, maybe all the time. Yeah, and I see that you’re sitting in some nice sunlight here as you speak. And I’m guessing that’s intentional, that you said, you’re working outdoors correctly,

Roudy:

it is definitely intentional. And anytime I could set, you know, my office outside, it’s what I’m actually tapping into an enormous body of energy that nature has designed for us. And, and I’m able to harness this power, right, so it has changed my life, like tremendously and the life of probably like 1000s of people that I’ve worked with.

Vaish:

Please tell, please tell us more about your journey. I know that you’ve had a specific tipping point were or maybe not, but where you move to a greater understanding, of how light affects you and tell us your journey.

Roudy:

Yeah, definitely. So as a kid, probably three or four years old, I was suffering from debilitating headaches, extreme agitation, and an inability to focus. And back then I was diagnosed with a very heavy label called ADHD, which I had to carry on my back for so many years. And to me, you know, I was a very intuitive kid, I knew what was going on in my environment. And I had an inner voice within me that was guiding me to not be in that environment. But my teachers and my surroundings didn’t understand that and I couldn’t articulate it. And growing up, I turned into a night owl, and I lived a very destructive lifestyle where I was staying up very late feeling super wild and stimulated to then wake up the following morning, lacking the energy, focus, and determination. So eventually, after they lived in this life, this led me to deep depression, and chronic fatigue, and completed this orientation. And to be honest with you, it was sabotaging every aspect of my life as a civil engineer, I couldn’t work my relationships felt like a roller coaster.

I was desperately trying to look for a solution in order to feel better. And as you mentioned, in the beginning, I kept going from one doctor to another, but to be honest, I felt exhausted with all the different health opinions about what I should be doing. And conventional medicine told me that I should be taking prescription drugs, which I thankfully refused. So I went on this holistic journey of trying so many different diets, supplements and herbal formulas, even meditation, physical exercise techniques. And while all of these built a very great foundation in my life, unfortunately, I was still stuck with the cycle of feeling super wired at night, very depressed and fatigued in the morning. Miraculously, one specific event, change all of this. I spent six weeks on a rural farm in Quebec, okay, I was camping in my tent, and I was exposed only to natural light during the day, and fire and candlelight during the evening. Now, within a matter of three days, something magical happened. I started winding down in the evening feeling super relaxed and mellow. To then wake up before the sunrise for the first time in my life, feeling super rested, energized, and extremely focused.

I was farming all day outdoors, dancing, cooking, hiking, studying, and even deepening my relationship with my loved one and to me, I was in complete awe like that was magic. I didn’t really grasp what was happening. Now, this magic didn’t last very long because after my foreign trip ended, I came back to the city, and at the time, I was still living in Toronto. And within a matter of few weeks, I literally fell back into my depression and inability to focus, and ADHD tendencies, tendencies. So at this point, I was very puzzled, like what happened, you know, I was asking myself deeply and intensely in my heart like, what is that and I remember going to a 10-day vipassana retreat sitting in silence. And during that retreat, the one question that I had wordlessly in my heart is like, what was the and the, like, something was continuously coming back into my consciousness about the light environment. And to me, I was like, what like, right? Like, how could it be? I mean, like, we turn on and off the lights, how could it affect my health. So this led me to a seven-year journey, where I was studying quantum biology, light and circadian rhythms and consulting the world’s leading experts in this field, and I start learning how the quality of the light that we expose ourselves to throughout the day will massively affect the quality of our sleep, focus, moods, and productivity.

Vaish:

When we were when we had met, maybe it was it a couple of months ago, for the first time, I remember having this other conversation with this, you mentioned right now that you were very intuitive as a child and I was struck with this your intuition as we spoke a couple of months ago, I remember sharing with you the stories of some autistic students that I had spoken with and they have continuously mentioned that one of the factors that are dis regulating for them in many environments they go to is that they can hear the lights, firstly, the light is too white, it’s too bright, it’s just the light itself is dis regulating, and then the sound of the lightest is regulating, then you had started talking about that. Now, I’m wondering if you would be willing to share a little bit more about this. And I want to add a little bit more background because a lot of times, of our many of our kids are nonspeaking. They’re, of course very many of them are also very intuitive and fine-tuned to their environment but don’t necessarily have immediate control of telling somebody what is affecting them in their environment. So we’re just taking them from home to school from one light to another light from one sensory stimulus to another sensory stimulus. But I’d love to hear your take on what you’d like to share about this particular experience.

Roudy:

Yeah, definitely. I think people with special needs and especially kids I deeply deeply deeply connected to their inner worlds and how this inner world is continuously in dance with the outer worlds and when those kids are hearing the lights they’re actually hearing the toxic electromagnetic frequencies that are being emitted from nonshielded lights that are flickering also at a higher rate.

Vaish:

So you end up keyword is the keyword here flickering at a higher rate is that’s what stayed in

Roudy:

words, okay. non-native electromagnetic radiation, nonnative Is that what you said? Yes, non-native, because native is like the electromagnetic radiation that we will attune to from the magnetic fields of the Earth and from the sun. And those are the magnetic frequencies, electromagnetic frequencies that have driven our evolution. Throughout the 1.5 billion, it evolved from a single-celled organism called bacteria to a phenomenal human being that is able to think perceive, imagine fields,s, etc. But non-native electromagnetic frequencies are actually new to us.

They’re 150 years old. And they come from artificial light sources. And they can be disruptive in so many different ways. One is the spectrum of light that we are being exposed to. And how this spectrum of light could be extremely unbalanced, compared to the spectrum of light that we get from sunlight. Also, we want to think of the timing of the day, because we all know that as soon as the sun sets and for millions of years, our bodies were exposed to complete darkness. And this signal of darkness that goes through the eyes drives every healing and rejuvenating process that happens in our body was actually designed to heal, and rejuvenate at night in complete darkness when sleeping and this doesn’t get triggered unless our eyes perceive the absence of blue and green lights. Because that’s when melatonin the sleeping hole. moon gets released by it’s not only a sleep hormone, it’s actually the highest antioxidant in nature and it keys cleans off inflammation, it also acts as a support for our immune system.

It enhances our nervous system and our ability to deal with stress. So in our current environment, we are living in perpetual, artificial light, exposure day and night. And this is destroying those rhythms. And as I mentioned, those circadian rhythms, drive 1000s of bodily functions in our body, every cell in our body has a 24-hour rhythm that is actually entrained by the rising and falling sun. So we need these light and dark cycles in order to be able to function at our optimal during the day, in order to sleep, repair and rejuvenate at night. And I think a lot of those kids are actually hearing that flicker because that flicker is subconsciously communicating to our nervous system, even though we’re not consciously aware of it.

In the quantum world, which is the world that is beyond our five senses, a very small stimulus can create amplification, cascading effects in our cells, and even one photon marriage. So when we are dealing with the quantum world, that’s when we want to start dealing with the unseen and unheard beyond what we’re used to perceiving through our five senses. And these things happen at a subconscious level. In fact, the circadian system and how light stimulates the circadian system are completely subconscious. Even though it drives every biological function in our body, we don’t have a conscious awareness of it, so to speak. And I do believe that those kids are intuitive to the point that they cannot, they can connect to the unseen and unheard, which is affecting all of us.

Yet, we are literally blind to it. And science is showing us that mitochondria disruption and circadian disruption that is caused by a junk light in a junk artificial environment is actually the cause of 90% of all modern chronic diseases, including anxiety, depression, Alzheimer’s, cancer, and so on. And there are very interesting studies by Dr. Wallace from the University of Washington, showing how these things are actually being generated in the mitochondrial genome and not in the nucleus genome. I don’t want to go too deep into this, but, but what I’d like to say is that we can learn so much from these kids with special needs. Because I know I know in my heart that these kids are more attuned to the environment, we are all being affected, yet, they are more sensitive to it. And on a cellular level, we are all being affected. And we and one day we run into a chronic disease, and we start thinking like, Oh, why, you know,

Vaish:

thank you for sharing that I have many, many, almost 1000s of questions coming in my head. So I’m just kind of sorting through them to, to find. So as you said that we’re all exposed to junk light all the time. And I’m sure many parents, are you panicking right now? What can you do? Because first, we’re living in artificial environments, we’re sending children to school, there are so many things, right. So there are some environments outside our control some environments within our control, even in the environment in which we live within our control. We have to live with other people who are outside our control who will make like a certain kind of light. And so basically, it’s a complicated matrix of things. But if we could talk about maybe three things, or any number of things, actually, I just like to use the number three that that parents can do right away to, to support this, or maybe not solve but support this issue. Where would they be?

Roudy:

Yes, definitely. That’s a great question. And there are a lot of things and it’s very simple things that we can do. Also, I want to take the opportunity to share that I’m not going to be able to go over all the solutions, obviously, because we won’t have enough time. So we also have a free guide on our website www.vivarays.com. It’s called the key to mastering your sleep and energy. And it’s designed to distill down all the science of quantum biology and circadian rhythm into very practical means giving actionable steps of what can someone do today in order to start elevating the light environment to a whole new level. So I want to

Vaish:

link to that. I linked to that the show notes

Roudy:

definitely. Now from a circadian perspective, there are very simple things that we can start doing today, in order to retrain our circadian clock to the solar timing, and start completely elevating our sleep, energy, and productivity. Now, number one, and one of the most important things is waking up in the morning, going outside right away facing east, and witnessing the sunrise. And even if it’s cloudy, even if it’s cloudy, and if it’s cloudy, that’s when it’s even more important to go outside and witness the sunrise because that’s when we actually need more time to collect those photons into our circadian system and activate that system, which will signal to our body that’s daytime. And this signal is extremely important because it’s going to increase cortisol in a healthy way and adrenaline. And this is what is gonna inform our body. That’s actually the time and it’s time to stop moving and get going. It’s time to stop focusing, it will increase our sharpness, our alertness, and our ability to feel happy and motivated about the day. So okay, I’m

Vaish:

going to put all my objections first, even if it is cloudy, you said yes. So obviously, I’m going to say even if it’s winter and icy cold, just go and see it doesn’t matter. Right. So that is clear. What about if you have if, if, if you’re bad sleep, or if you have not slept enough? Now, let’s say we’re talking about kids, this is one issue that keeps coming up because my son was having a lot of trouble sleeping, finally, it’s working out, but I’m never sure should I wake him up? Or should I not let him sleep? Which is more important sleep or circadian rhythm?

Roudy:

That’s a tricky question. And it’s not sleep or circadian rhythm, I hear this as is it more important to sleep and extend the sleep or to see the sunrise. Because yes, eventually, when your circadian rhythm is in harmony with the solar time, you’re going to start waking up, you have this inner alarm clock that is going to nudge you to wake up. And it’s going to take probably two to three days to readjust the circadian rhythm so that it’s in complete harmony with the environment. But where do we start from morning sunlight, actually, it will provide energy for the natural conversion of the amino acids in our eyes to convert into serotonin and melatonin? And this melatonin gets activated at night. And in one hour, I start perceiving the absence of blue and green lights.

So here’s where we need to find balance for this equation. Because first of all, if we don’t get enough morning sunlight, we’re not going to build up melatonin in our system. And second of all, what most people do maybe is the sunsets, they come back home and they are exposed to the second sun from artificial lighting. And what this does, even though we have built enough melatonin during the day, melatonin will not be released, because our brain and our bodies are being tricked that still daytime, it’s increasing our cortisol at the wrong time of the day and destroying melatonin production. And this will start shifting our sleep in the wrong direction. And this may be why your son has been struggling with sleep. So he feeds wire and then stimulated that night when he’s actually supposed to be winding down and going into deep states of repair and rejuvenation. And so you got to start from somewhere. And one side and then the other side will automatically adjust so to speak.

Vaish:

Right. Right, that makes sense. So so so tell me a little bit more about your tip number two, you said once one sunset happens, did you say that already? Did I miss it?

Roudy:

So we talked about sunrise and we like if it says super like blue sky day, a minimum of 15 minutes is great and will be enough to activate the circadian system. Now, the more the better, obviously because it’s not only about the circadian system, there are 1000s of different things that light could affect Okay, yes. Now, if it’s a cloudy day, a minimum of 30 minutes and if it’s an overcast day, a minimum of 45 minutes. Okay. Okay,

Vaish:

what is the difference between cloudy and overcast?

Roudy:

While cloudy is like a regular cloudy day like white clouds like

Vaish:

cloudy is white clouds and,

Roudy:

and overcast is like you know when brightness is extremely low outside. But it’s great to mention the even on an overcast day. It’s we’ve done the measurements and it’s at least 10 times brighter than it is in an indoor lit environment. And we need that brightness to stimulate our circadian system. So that’s why number two is throughout the day, taking sun breaks Okay, and going outside for five minutes and exposing our skin and our eyes to natural sunlight, no sunscreen, and no sunglasses. Number three is

Vaish:

Oh, no sunglasses either. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Roudy:

There’s a lot to say about this, obviously. But maybe we can explore this in a different episode. Yes. Number three is as soon as the sun is setting around that time, also going outside and witnessing the slowly fading light, because this is, we got to start thinking that light is information. And arguably one of the most important information in our environment.

Vaish:

That can be the title of this podcast light is information I like

Roudy:

100%. So witnessing that is very important, because it’s going to signal to our nervous system, our hypothalamus in the brain, which will send hormonal messages to the millions of cellular clocks in our body, that it’s time to wind down and to start preparing for rejuvenating night’s sleep. Okay, and as soon as we come back home, that’s when it’s extremely important to have a high-quality lens technology system like the reverse glasses, which we could talk a little more about. But those glasses, long story short, are designed to filter out those frequencies of light from artificial light that will confuse our brain and our bodies into thinking that it’s daytime again and start disrupting our circadian rhythm.

Vaish:

I love those three tips. Is there. My one question about Tip two, and then I would love to ask you about her glasses as well, is that a frequency for the sun breaks you mentioned or just whenever you can go out like taking, do some work go out to some work quite like that.

Roudy:

So important times, I’m gonna highlight some important times. And anytime we’re talking about sunlight, we got to remember that we have also a shirt annual living, which is connected to the seasons and our geographical location. Because if you’re living up north, for instance, UVA and UVB from sunlight are not present all year long. And those will act as important information to signal to our system about the time of the season. So our body also makes the necessary physiological adaptation to actually adapt to the season. Okay, but important times are around 9 am. And that will also depend on where you are. And on the time of the season, I recommend using an app called I think it’s called D minor. And there’s another one called the circadian, the circadian app, I’ll leave links for those too. But what this app does, it takes your geographical location and starts telling you about when UVA rises when UVB rises, and the time of the sunrise, the times of the sunset. And UVA is a very important signal to our body because around 9 am as UVA rises, this actually starts shutting down the hormone the production of cortisol and progesterone from the pituitary gland. So it acts as a balancing signal to that blue light that activated the pituitary gland in the morning.

Okay, now, UVB is the frequency of light that enables us to make vitamin D when it strikes the skin. So when can we make vitamin D will depend on your geographical location? This is why I recommend this app. But generally speaking, when the sun is hot at its highest position in the sky, so that would be around 1112. And depending on your skin type, and depending on how much you’ve built your solar colors, you know, I could spend all day long in the sun and I’m okay because I usually build my solar colors in the spring so that I can absorb more light and summer without burning.

Vaish:

And what is that? What did you say about solar why is solar color

Roudy:

so the solar callus is. So you build your solar callus in the spring by gradually exposing yourself to light so that you become more resilient to the frequencies of light in summer, and your body becomes more able to absorb that light without burning. And one way we are built to enhance our solar callus is by actually exposing our skin to early morning sunlight when the sun is rising because that’s when the sun is actually high in infrared light and has no UV whatsoever. And this light actually prepares our cells and our skin to be able to absorb UV which is the opposite spectrum from infrared and To be able to absorb the frequency of light without burning and enhance our ability in absorbing that light.

Vaish:

Thank you, thank you for explaining that. And

Roudy:

UVA, around 11 or 12, UVB for making vitamin D. And again, when the sun is setting, okay.

Vaish:

Got it? So you mentioned that after, after sunset, the, I don’t know, did you mention it, it might have been from a previous conversation, but the importance of also minimizing external light, artificial light after sunset. And I think this was from a previous conversation, but you’ve mentioned it today as well. And one of the ways is to use it because of all that it’s not possible all the time to turn off the light in your home. So it’s to use blue light blockers, is that correct?

Roudy:

Yes, I usually don’t like to associate much with the term blue light blocking glasses, because there’s a lot of marketing gimmick around it. And a lot of products that we’ve tested are actually filtering random frequencies of light. I see. And this is why like in vivo rays, we use the circadian lens technology system, which is actually composed of three lenses, one for the daytime, when we are actually indoors in front of digital devices and artificial lights. And this lens is actually designed to address the specific frequency of light, distorted, unbalanced frequency of light that we expose ourselves to from artificial lights. And it’s designed to reduce it, and balance that blue with the green and yellow so that we’re getting more proportionate and balanced light into our eyes. And that’s only to be worn indoors in front of artificial devices or under artificial lights.

Okay. And the other two technologies, one is called the evening. And this one is designed to be worn after the sunset right away, and it blocks all of the blue and only the highest frequency of green. So that you could start winding down and relaxing. Yet, you’ll still have the energy and vigor to run your evening tasks without feeling very sleepy. And the nighttime glasses are actually put on one hour before bedtime because those are designed to block all blue, all green and decrease the brightness by 15 times, which literally signals to your system that it’s completely dark outside and starts increasing melatonin production and growth hormone in the body. And that’s another very important aspect for children because many children nowadays are being challenged by the shutdown of growth hormones, by artificial light exposure.

Vaish:

I see. Yeah, that is definitely I can see how every one of the topics that you have addressed could potentially lead to a completely different podcast episode for each of them. So yeah, and as growth. Growth hormone is so big in so many aspects. And just making a quick note of that to discuss later. And for me to think about it a little bit. But thank you so much for sharing these tips. And, and your website is Viva res.com, the IVARAY s.com. This is where people can find it, I will put a link to I’ll go ahead and find the exact link to the free ebook or guide that you mentioned. But this is also where people can find the three lens technology, the different lenses for the three different situations or times that you talked about.

Roudy:

Yeah, I want to add one more thing, because you just came through. And I think it’s very important. One thing that parents could do to really help their kids is to unplug wi Fi’s, and turn off phones while sleeping. Because all of this electromagnetic radiation is actually picked up by the pineal gland that produces melatonin. And it completely disrupts melatonin production and growth hormone for kids. As well as for adults, by guests. Kids are much more vulnerable because they’re at this stage where they are growing. And this is a very important thing for parents to do.

Vaish:

Okay. This continues to be and I’m sure many parents can relate to, this. This continues to be an argument between me and my husband who works till 2 am at night with Wi-Fi. So this is ongoing. Maybe I’ll play this podcast for him and see if something changes. Yeah. Thank you so much for your time. We really I really, really love this conversation. You touched on so many aspects. And it’s like I said, it’s got my brain running in many, many directions but I  can so many of these things that I need to do right away. After I spoke to you last time, I did start getting up and doing the tip number one getting out for sunrise. So I’m going to see if I can implement that with it as well. Beautiful. Yeah.

Roudy:

Awesome. Very nice. Thanks. Thanks so much for having me on. And it’s a pleasure. And I’d be glad to have an explore other topics as well because as you mentioned, the topic of light is extremely big and influences us in so many different aspects. So there’s a lot to explore.

Vaish:

Yes. Thank you. Did you love the tips that Rudy gave about light? Now like I said, I’ve actually started tips one and two for myself, and my son also just started this week. It’s rather fun to just get up and see go see the sun be in the sunlight for 15 minutes right away after waking and it also helps me get my morning walk right after I get up. So it actually feels really nice. That is it from us for this week. I really look forward to seeing you again next week. But wait, if you love this podcast with Rudy as I did, please take a minute to drop a review and a rating it really helps us reach more people.

Roudy:

Bye